Meeting Public Comments

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A bill for an act relating to public assistance program oversight.(See SF 494.)
Subcommittee members: Edler-CH, Costello, Trone Garriott
Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2023
Time: 11:00 AM - 12:00 PM
Location: Room 315
Comments Submitted:
The purpose of comments is to provide information to members of the subcommittee.
Names and comments are public records. Remaining information is considered a confidential record.

02-10-2023
Sandy Wilson [Citizen Engagement]
Citizen Engagement declares IN FAVOR of SSB 1105.
02-13-2023
Liz Dierolf [River Bend Food Bank]
On behalf of River Bend Food Bank and the 32,559 Iowans facing hunger in our services area, we oppose the passage of SB1105 as currently written. The new asset test would be burdensome for the Department Human Services. Director Garcia has made incredible strides making the office more efficient. Currently, applicants are required to provide 7 documents by the federal government and these state requirements would add 8 more documents, requiring more staff work. Pennsylvania implemented asset limits only to remove them after three years because of the administrative costs. There needs to be a fiscal note to determine how much these new requirements would cost the state to implement.
02-13-2023
Stephanie Anderson []
I am writing to voice my opposition to SSB 1105. SNAP benefits are 100% federally funded, and the state has a 5050 cost share on administrative costs with the USDA, which have remained stable for over 10 years. It appears that the asset tests proposed in this bill are seemingly unnecessary and would only work to make it harder for families in need to get federal food assistance. It would also create more of an administrative burden on DHS employees and would implement an expensive verification system similar to those that have been abandoned in other states because it wasted money and only existed to hurt some of the most vulnerable in our communities.In short, this bill would do more harm than good and it should not be advanced.
02-13-2023
Nicole McAlexander []
As a lifelong Iowan and the director of a nonprofit that runs a weekly food pantry in rural Linn County, I urge you not to advance SSB 1105. Every day I see the struggle that our community members face in trying to meet basic needs. Seniors on fixed incomes, young parents with lowwage jobs, and neighbors on disability are desperate for more assistance, not more barriers to help. SNAP is the most efficient hungerfighting program in the nation and adding new restrictions will increase hunger in Iowa and put additional strain on food pantries that are already floundering. At our pantry, as in pantries across the state, we saw a dramatic increase in need last spring, when the end of the state emergency declaration reduced SNAP benefits to prepandemic levels. Since that change we've seen a sustained increase of 3040% more food pantry visits than in any previous year. Stocking our shelves is harder than it has ever been, as the need is so great, food bank inventory is low, and retail prices are so high. Just halfway through our fiscal year, we've already spent our entire food pantry budget. While our community is generous and continues to step up to meet the need, our entire social safety net cannot be left to the kindness of individuals. We must work together at all levels local, state, national, to support our most vulnerable neighbors. SSB 1105 would make this much more difficult. Specifically, the asset limit would be especially detrimental to our rural neighbors, who have no access to public transportation and need a reliable vehicle to hold down a job. Also, a required computerized registration system would be a significant barrier for our senior clients, many of whom do not have internet access. On behalf of all of our food pantry clients and vulnerable Iowans, I urge you not to pass this harmful legislation.
02-13-2023
Suzanne Kabisch []
As an Iowa resident I oppose the passage of SB1105 as currently written. Director Garcia has made incredible strides in making the Department of Human Services efficient. New assets tests would be burdensome for the office. The federal government already requires 7 documents for the application. These state requirements would add 8 more documents, requiring more staff to process. Pennsylvania implemented asset limits only to remove them after three years because of the administrative costs. There needs to be a fiscal note to determine how much these new requirements would cost the state to implement.I also believe that if passed in its current form, SB1105 will reduce SNAP eligibility for Iowas most vulnerable (66 percent of SNAP beneficiaries are children, seniors, and people with disabilities). The proposed legislation would establish one of the most restrictive asset limits for SNAP in the country and hurt rural Iowans. Many clients that receive SNAP are working 12 jobs and still living in poverty. These families will be forced to choose between buying food or paying for necessities like utilities, transportation, and medicine. As some one who works with assisting Iowa County residents with food insecurity and families seeking assistance with rent and their utility bills this would be disastrous for a rural communities that are already stretched too thin.Thank you for your consideration,Sincerely,Suzanne KabischWilliamsburg, IA
02-14-2023
Diane Jones []
I am thoroughly opposed to this bill. An asset test will at a minimum discourage savings among qualified families and at worst increase the number of hungry families in this state. Please stop with the cruel and punitive legislation against our most marginalized and vulnerable neighbors. Time to walk the walk of Christ's values.
02-14-2023
Barbara and Jim Dale []
Please make sure the legacy of this legislative session does not include depriving Iowans of food.
02-14-2023
Dawn Lull [Dawn R Lull CPA PLC]
I am not sure why the current government insists on kicking the unfortunate more when they are needing our help more. Do the representatives currently use any of these items in their current households and need to cut their use of the products too?I would suggest getting more bang for the buck by doing an across the board cut of all governmental programs including the pay and benefits of the House, Senate and Governor to show that we are all in this together and not singling out the unfortunate and poor.
02-14-2023
Tom Mohan [Iowa CCI + IOwa Hunger Coalition]
Im writing in opposition to SSB 1105.This bill is completely unnecessary and only seems to designed to punish poor and hungry Iowans. I volunteer several days a week at a local food pantry in Cedar Rapids. There is no fraud. There is no abuse. Only an ever increasing demand as food costs rise. This is a bad bill that will only benefit some out of state contractor that legislative supporters will likely hire to create and administer more draconian restrictions that will limit and make it more difficult for needy Iowans while lining the pockets of their big dollar donors. Scrap this bill.
02-14-2023
Adam Falk []
I wholeheartedly oppose SSB 1105. This will be a detrimental impact to people's material well being. It is absurd and unconscionable this is even up for consideration.
02-14-2023
Jim Kotouc [Private Citizen/Constituent]
I am vehemently opposed to the unnecessary bill/proposal known as SSB 1105. How low can you go to target and harass poor and disenfranchised Iowans? Shame on every single one of you who support or promote this completely unnecessary bill. Taking food out of the mouths of needy Iowans, and subjecting them to a "means test" under the guise of "oversight" and "accountability" is cruel and intrusive. Perhaps the body needing "oversight" and "accountability" are all of you "policymakers" who are so hellbent on turning Iowa into a Fascist Police State. Once again, instead of helping Iowans, you create ways to further marginalize them with this needless meddling that will already tax overworked systems, and actually increase the costs to govern these programs. Instead of cutting taxes and helping your Corporate cronies out, you should provide adequate supports to help raise the standard of living which might actually decrease the number of people and families needing these services. But apparently that type of progressive forward thinking is beyond your realm of comprehension. Do right by Iowans and scrap this useless bill. Call me one disgusted and angry constituent.
02-14-2023
Thomas O'Donnell []
Please reject this unnecessary and draconian bill. Every hurdle placed in the path of a person or family in need only keeps those who face hunger every day from the food they need to keep children healthy and ready to learn. A dollar spent today on feeding a child will save hundreds later on health care, education and corrections. Hungry kids don't learn. They fall behind and into lowpaying occupations. Their health suffers. Their desperation leads to crime. All these things cost taxpayers more in the long run.
02-14-2023
Merle Walter [Democrat]
Republicans would withhold food from one hundred people because one might not be deserving. Democrats would feed one hundred people even if they knew one might not qualify. Proud to be Democrat!
02-14-2023
Berleen Wobeter [South Tama Co Food Pantry]
I just finished my volunteer work at our local food pantry. We trust our clients to give accurate info and I would not want to be in their shoes. Our demand for food will only go up if this is passed. Life is hard enough for these folks. What are you thinking?
02-14-2023
Tammy Nordstrom []
Food banks begging for donations, grocery prices still expensive and this is what you want? Let's do the right thing and feed Iowa's children, elderly, veterans and the working poor.
02-14-2023
Rachel Henning []
I am opposed to SSB 1105. This proposed legislation would make it harder for the most vulnerable people in our state to get the food they need. Adding more requirements and restrictions will do nothing but increase the suffering of people in our state.
02-14-2023
Linda Gorkow [Iowa Food Bank Association]
On behalf of the Iowa Food Bank Association (IFBA) I encourage the Senate Health and Human Services Sub Committee to vote against this legislation. Personally, I also encourage you to vote against this legislation as it would reduce SNAP access to Iowans. I personally benefited from SNAP as a child. It nourished me when I needed it the most. Children benefit from this program we must take care of them.SNAP benefits are federally funded. Federal funds pay for half of Iowas administrative costs. SNAP brings federal funds to Iowas/retailers while feeding Iowans without enough resources to provide food on the table. The faces of hunger in Iowa include parents working one or two jobs, their children, seniors and the disabled. The program helps families and nourishes Iowans. It helped ME when I was a child. The program works and is most effective federal hunger relief program. Below are a few highlighted notes for your consideration. Please vote against this bill if it comes before you. SSB1105 Asset test The asset test would be very burdensome for Iowa Health and Human Services. Director Garcia has made incredible strides making the administrative burden more efficient. This legislation adds a laundry list of eligibility checks that will require much more staff work. I am not sure that any administrative costs were added to accommodate this extra staff work. A fiscal note is needed on this piece of legislation. As you will recall the State of Pennsylvania did an asset limit for SNAP as a 3year pilot. After 3 years they reversed this decision because this brought a cost of 3.5 million administrative burden to the state. It also resulted in approximately 110,000 households who were denied benefits because they failed to provide the proper documentation. Federal sources already require 7 documents and US Department of health already require an additional 2 documents. Now adding 8 more documents from state departments seems a little redundant and labor intensive. Iowa is currently one of 36 states that does NOT have an asset limit. Most states have moved away from asset limits for SNAP, and with good reason. Asset limits have been shown to discourage people who are eligible from applying for SNAP, increase administrative costs, and discourage people from saving for emergencies. Even childrens savings accounts would count toward the asset limit for a household. Households would face a limit of $2,750 in assets, or $4,250 in assets if at least one member of the household is age 60 or older, or is disabled. 9 states use the federal limit of 2,500 and 5 states have a much higher limit. Nebraska has an asset limit of $25,000 that is strictly for liquid assets and excludes all vehicles. If you have two working parents, especially in rural Iowa they need transportation to get to and from work. Public transit is not an option in most rural areas. Also, the value of a car can be very subjective. Car prices jumped dramatically since the pandemic. Many states have moved away from an asset limit because it is such an administration burden. Additional administrative hurdles for SNAP will only increase costs for the state of Iowa. SNAP benefits are 100% federally funded. Furthermore, the number of Iowans enrolled in SNAP is currently at a 14year low.6 The state has a 5050 cost share with USDA on administrative costs for SNAP. The states administrative costs for SNAP have not meaningfully changed in 12 years.7 The fiscal note last session for a similar bill, HF 2438, estimated that it would cost the state $14.2 million in the first two years to implement and add 43 FTEs to HHS staff, but the state would then see savings in the third year from removing an estimated 1% of participants from SNAP, Medicaid, and other public assistance programs. The majority of this savings was from Medicaid, and none was from SNAP.8Respectfully, Linda Gorkow6Iowa Department of Health and Human Services, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) F1Participation Report. https://hhs.iowa.gov/reports/foodassistancereports/f1reportv27 USDA Food and Nutrition Service, SNAP State Activity Reports.https://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/snapstateactivityreports8 Legislative Services Agency, Fiscal Note: HF 2438. https://www.legis.iowa.gov/docs/publications/FN/1287572.pdf
02-15-2023
Laura Hessburg [Iowa Coalition Against Domestic Violence]
The Iowa Coalition Against Domestic Violence (ICADV) urges legislators to reject this bill (SSB 1105). ICADV supports 22 local agencies providing direct support services to victims of domestic violence, sexual assault, child abuse, human trafficking, and homicide. People do well when their needs are met, and food is the most basic need. The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) helps feed children and adults and remains the nations most effective and immediately responsive tool in fighting hunger and reducing poverty. Making it harder to access SNAP is bad for everyone. Among all public support programs SNAP eligibility requirements should be the least burdensome for all Iowans who rely on this very basic support to make ends meet and to feed their families. The proposed changes in SSB 1105 contradict the policy goals of SNAP in fighting hunger but also fail to meet the stated program efficiency purposes of this bill. SNAP benefits are fully funded by the federal government with states splitting the administrative costs with the federal government. The proposed changes dramatically increase administrative costs without saving any money based on the experience of states who have made similar changes. SSB 1105 would cost more money and leave people worse off, i.e., it would kick thousands off SNAP, increase food insecurity and economic hardship and decrease economic stimulus in local communities. According to the USDA Economic Research Service, every $1 in SNAP benefits generates $1,54 in economic activity. This bill is bad for everyone, including domestic violence victims who struggle to meet basic needs while seeking safety and rely on SNAP to feed their families. We are concerned by the computerized identity authentication requirement, the requirement for custodial parents to cooperate with child support recovery, and the proposed asset test for SNAP eligibility. Please make the computerized identity authentication requirement optional. We support the potential for this provision to increase access to SNAP for some applicants (those with transportation or medical barriers, or without access to required forms of ID), but it also presents a significant access barrier for many domestic violence victims without internet access, limited credit history, or limited English proficiency. Making this optional would increase access for all and would align with USDA SNAP regulations. Requiring custodial parents to cooperate with child support recovery to be eligible for SNAP would immediately make many domestic violence victims ineligible. Leaving a violent partner is the most dangerous time for victims and children. Anecdotally, almost all survivors served by local agencies we represent providing emergency shelter services, rely on SNAP to get back on their feet. Many victims do not engage with child support recovery for good reasons and initially it is mostly about safety. This provision is unnecessary and adding a family violence exemption would not make it better adding this step delays access to food and would not help anyway because most could not obtain the added documentation needed for an exemption or want to risk alerting a partner of their location. There is no way to implement this provision without leaving women and children without access to food. Making SNAP eligibility requirements consistent with other public benefit programs is uniquely unnecessary here. Medicaid and TANF already require child support cooperation and administering that requirement is costly. There is no need to duplicate this requirement in SNAP where the very purpose of the program is to meet an urgent need for food. The fiscal note for this provision in previous bills estimated an enormous administrative cost and the experience in other states showed it was not close to being costeffective or even generating significant child support recovery for families. North Carolina implemented a similar pilot project (for child care subsidies) and found it to be highly inefficient. It cost $2 million to implement, but only led to a total of about $7,000 in child support payments to 12 families over a year, or about $50 per month.A new asset test would also make many domestic violence victims ineligible for SNAP. Many survivors flee homes with children and the clothes they are wearing but even for those able to leave with more, most have little access to cash, bank accounts, and key identification documents because a partner destroyed documents and prevented access to money. Service providers routinely help survivors replace documents needed to enroll in SNAP which is no small task. Adding an asset test for eligibility creates an insurmountable barrier for survivors who either cannot access the additional documentation or would stop trying due to safety concerns. SNAP enables many Iowans to eat and eligibility requirements for this program should be the least burdensome. Being able to access support programs like SNAP influences a victims ability to keep their family safe and meet basic needs. Enabling survivors to get back on their feet at this critical time can mean the difference between a lifetime of economic hardship and a future free from violence. Please oppose this bill that makes it harder for Iowans struggling to make ends meet, to access food.
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02-15-2023
Shirley Davis []
I'm disappointed that you choose to spend your time telling Iowans they are not capable of making their own decisions Instead you pick a non existent problem and make it an issue to benefit your individual beliefs and bring up a cultural war rather than address real problems of constituents. Your biases and fears are showing. They are an outgrowth of your arrogance and tunnel vision view of life in Iowa
02-15-2023
Alison Cocks []
No Iowan should go hungry. The roadblocks that legislatures are throwing in the way of Iowans is draconian. If we are a welcoming state as Governor Reynolds has repeated many times, than we help all people. I oppose this bill.
02-15-2023
Steve and Sara Luse []
We are opposed to adding an unnessesary amount of administrative paperwork to the Iowa SNAP process.
02-15-2023
Teresa Baustian [Teresa Baustian]
This bill is incomprehensible to Iowans. We know the data demonstrates high levels of food insecurity with our neighbors. Some of us volunteer at food pantries and have seen the increased demand for food since the Covid emergency funding measures ended. We take some comfort in our own donations to the other feeding centers and neighborhood free pantries, but we know all too well that those are emptied almost as full as they are supplied. In other words, Iowans know that their neighbors are hungry. Our government should be addressing the problem, not seeking to make it worse.
02-15-2023
Marsha Patterson []
I am totally against this bill. This is federally funded so why mess with it at all? Iowans do not need to be hungry. Why don't you try eating on what these folks do. Have some compassion for the nonrich for once. Shame!
02-15-2023
Reggie Schmitt [North East Iowa Food Bank]
I oppose passage of SSB 1105. I have been a NEIFB volunteer for 13 years, delivering food to pantries in16 countries. I witness the need based on the amount & volume of food ordered.
02-15-2023
Reggie Schmitt [North East Iowa Food Bank]
I oppose passage of SSB 1105. I have been a NEIFB volunteer for 13 years, delivering food to pantries in16 countries. I witness the need based on the amount & volume of food ordered.
03-12-2023
Susan Breitbach []
We Iowan s need that extra help here not a lot of opportunities for us .
03-12-2023
Susan Breitbach []
We Iowan s need that extra help here not a lot of opportunities for us .